Competition: Words and War Phase 1 Puzzle: The Curious Case of the TRF Tribe

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Words and War Phase 1 Puzzle: The Curious Case of the TRF Tribe

You arrive on a TRF island with a tribe with odd customs. The tribe consists of 1000 people, all aligned to the light or dark side. Their religion forbids them from knowing their own alignment, or even to discuss the Force. However, each resident can (and does) sense the alignment of all other residents, but has no way of discovering his or her own. If a person ever discovers their own alignment, then they must commit suicide at noon in front of all other islanders. All the people are perfectly logical and perfectly adherent to the customs, and they all know that each other perfectly logical and perfectly adherent to the customs (and they all know that they all know that each other is perfectly logical and perfectly adherent to the customs, and so forth).

["highly logical" in this case means that anything that can possibly be deduced purely through logic will immediately be known to the person]

Of the 1000 islanders, it turns out that 100 of them are dark siders and 900 of them are light siders, although the islanders are not initially aware of these numbers (each of them can of course only see 999 of the 1000 people).

One day, a CSP member visits the island and wins the complete trust of the TRF people.

One evening, the member address the entire tribe to thank them for their hospitality.

However, not knowing the customs, they make the mistake of mentioning the Force, and says "how unusual it is to see another dark-sider out here in the TRF".

What effect, if anything, does this faux pas have on the tribe?

This is a logic puzzle. You should answer what happens to the tribe, and explain your reasoning. Entries graded on how close your conclusion is to the true solution, and then by clearest explanation. If you have absolutely no idea, a comedy solution is also acceptable.

Competition Information
Parent Competition
Words and War
Organized by
General Zentru'la
Running time
2018-07-02 until 2018-07-16 (15 days)
Target Unit
Clan Scholae Palatinae
Competition Type
Other
Awards
Fourth Level Crescents
Participants
6 subscribers, of which 5 have participated.
Results
1st place
James Malum
Member
James Malum
Textual submission

After 100 days pass, all of the dark siders would commit suicide. The easiest way is to scale up from one dark sider. If there's only one, they'd instantly know that they are dark and kill themself. If we had more like two, then each could just say that the other one will realize it and commit suicide, once they don't commit suicide they both realize that they must be dark sided because of the fact that all other light siders could see both dark siders and the dark siders could see each other. Through induction, we could just say that for 100 people they'd all assume this process occurs for 100 days and after nobody kills themself they will all induce that they are a Darksider. (Sorry for the really bad explaination I honestly didn't have much of a clue with what I was doing :P)

Placement
1st place
Member
Occultan Iacul
Textual submission

As they will never tell each who is aligned to what side, and as that they can not know their own alignment without having to kill themselves and due to the CSP member not being specific as to whom they refer in their statement. Finally since asking for clarification on who the csp member speaks of would break the custom as to not discuss the force. No one in the tribe kills themselves due to this statement as they all know there are dark siders in the tribe and a singular individual was not specifically pointed out. However it is also possible to keep with their traditions they would inform the CSP member that they must kill themselves the next day or attempt to force the csp member to do so.

in conclusion, no tribe member dies as individual(s) was(where) not named, all tribe members already know dark siders are among them. CSP member might be forced to commit suicide the next day for breaking the taboo of talking about the Force.

Placement
2nd place
3rd place
Wagglehorn
Member
Wagglehorn
Textual submission

After mentioning the force in his address, Wagglehorn continues his speech. The speech ends, and the feasting begins. Wagglehorn passes out sometime around 2AM.

Waking up shortly before noon the next day, Wagglehorn wakes to a crowd gathered in the center of town.

He asks what is going on, and is told that the entire village is now lining up for the ritual that begins at high noon. Pressed for details, it is revealed that the entire tribe has discovered their own alignment after the conversation topic was breached by Wagglehorn the prior night. Between the flowing alcohol, and the newfound freedom of thought inspired by Wagglehorn’s mention of the force, (also, possibly a fear of the dark side), the tribe all looked inward and discovered their alignments.

Bound by cultural rigidity, the tribe does what they know they must.

Wagglehorn frantically tries to dissuade the crowd from continuing their ritual. High noon hits. 900 light sided and honorable TRF tribe members become one with the force.

The remaining 100, who never intended to follow through, are now in control of the village’s resources and negotiate an alliance with Wagglehorn.
Dumbfounded, Wagglehorn returns to the fleet with a newfound alliance among a TRF tribe, though an admittedly smaller tribe than intel originally indicated.

Placement
3rd place
Member
Jorm (The Jester) Na'trej
Textual submission

The one person addressed will commit suicide.

The others, while able to feel other people's alignment, are still unaware of their own alignment. Since discussion and further inquiry are still prohibited, there will be no further exchange about the issue. They will observe that the CSP envoy is a darksider, but aside from concluding that CSP apparently shares the alignment of the tribe's minority and a plea to not disturb the customs further, nothing will come of it, again because discussion is prohibited.

Of course, nothing stops the envoy of then intentionally pointing out a few lightsiders before he's kicked out...

Placement
No placement
Member
Derek Cinn
Textual submission

By winning their trust, that in part means they expect you to commit suicide at noon for knowing you're own alignment. The people don't know their own and they can't know who the CSP member is referring to. what is clear is that the CSP member knows his own alignment. so the day will progress with the people expecting the member to commit suicide the next day. Realizing then as the member leaves or stays but doesn't seem to be preparing for suicide, the people of the village force him to (or at least try)

Placement
No placement