HM #8a: Phase 1 Trivia Answers

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HM #8a: Phase 1 Trivia Answers

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When I do trivia or take a quiz, I want to know how I did. I also like being transparent in my reasoning. So it seemed like a no brainer to share the answers to the phase 1 trivia along with some stats.

I had three goals with this comp:

  1. It should be easy to get participation points for your clan.

  2. It should be a real challenge to get placement points or a nova.

  3. There should be a variety of questions and, at least sometimes, a variety of ways to get to the correct answer.

We had 89 valid submissions (plus a test run from Atra before Phase 1 started). 20 people got it done in 5 minutes or less, with our quickest entry taking a mere 102 seconds. While that’s still nowhere near as easy and popular as the Button, it was on par with the flash game and probably less of a time investment than the puzzle.

We had a few people get all 10 questions and a few others get none of them, with the average right in the middle at 5 points. Top 10 placement was a lot more work than participation credit: our top 10 spent between 20 minutes and 2 hours on the quiz and got at least 9 of out 10 questions correct. With 89 entries, placement was going to be challenging regardless, but in this case the placement points are almost entirely based on who figured out the most answers instead of who could zip through as quickly as possible.

As for objective #3, well, I think I hit the mark there but your mileage will vary.

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Answers

Question 1:

The revelation that the Children of Mortis are led by “The Father” led to relentless speculation that there would also be a Mother. Sure enough, during the invasion of Brotherhood space, a young woman gave birth to the body now inhabited by the Father.

Who was this mother?

It’s all fun and games until Iddy makes it canon. The Mother was Saira O’Setera, a new recruit to the Lightbringers who was featured in the Who Are the Children? and GJW XV fiction updates.

In addition to checking the fiction directly, there are summaries in the Fiction Center, the Fifteenth Great Jedi War page, and the recent timeline page (everybody thank Essik Lyccane for the last two of those). She was also hanging out in “the Chambers of the Mother” in the Galactic Happenings recap series earlier this summer.

42 members got this one correct.

Question 2:

When and where did the Brotherhood first encounter the Children of Mortis?

Dandoran in 39 ABY (2021) in Rite of Supremacy: Escalation.

There were a lot of ways to get this information, mostly via the wiki or just remembering RoS:E. Statistically, it was the easiest question and 62 members got it correct.

Question 3:

Which sect leader oversaw the Children of Mortis' first contact with the Brotherhood?

This was the first of the picture questions. I had three goals with these: have multiple variants as an anti-cheating measure while keeping all variants equally difficult for fairness, show off the sweet character art commissioned for GJW XV, and make it a little more work than just skimming through until you found a name.

Everyone got a grid with four character images from the magnificent Kaela Croft. Everyone had the three sect leaders and the fourth position was either James, Dacien, or Telaris. You were looking for this lady.

If you didn’t already know what these characters look like, there were at least two ways of putting faces to the names. The easiest was to go to Resources>Factions>The Children of Mortis and look at the sect leaders’ character sheets to see their avatars. The other is to dig through old news posts, either through the news archive, Iddy’s dossier, or the wiki article for GJW XV, and you’ll see them alongside chapter 1.

56 people got this one correct. I got a lot of positive feedback on this and #6, which had the same gimmick, though I also got feedback that character art should've been someplace more accessible.

Question 4:

According to a news post from the Voice, J’hon Whetu was based on [], Rose Telsniw was based on [], and Loremi P’sum was named in honor of [].

Statistically, this was the hardest question, not least because you had to get all three right for credit, making it very unlikely you’d get credit by picking randomly.

This was spelled out explicitly in a Voice report, appropriately titled The One With The Children, and the most straightforward path was to go digging through the news archive until you found it. I think the way I phrased the question led a lot of people to assume it was the only way to get this one. However, I think looking at the faction leaders' character sheets and some quick Googling would get you pretty far. You had six options for three blanks:

Well, Homelander is an evil bastard that pretends to be a good guy, has laser eyes, and looks like this. J’hon Whetu is an evil bastard that pretends to be a good guy, has laser eyes in both the fics and on his loadout, and he looks like this.

Atra’s initial artwork for Rose Telsniw was modeled on Kate Winslet; Rose is a reference to her character in Titanic and Telsniw is Winslet backwards.

Loremi P’sum is named in honor of Lorem Ipsum, a classic passage of pseudo-Latin filler text used as a placeholder when you want to see what a webpage will look like but you don't have all the content written yet. It was accidentally left in one of the faction descriptions in Rite of Supremacy: Escalation and immediately became the biggest meme of the vendetta. This one was genuinely a bit tricky if you weren't around for RoS:E and you're not familiar with Lorem Ipsum, but even years later we're still spamming the server with Lorem Ipsum memes so I don't feel too bad about it.

A lot of people jumped on John Wick for J'hon Whetu, Rose Tyler for Rose Telsniw, and to a lesser extent Lorelei for Loremi. I tricked you by picking names that sound similar, but Wick and Rose are pretty different from the Harbringer and the Seer in both looks and personality. Lorelei could refer to a whole bunch of characters and people, but they're almost invariably female and Loremi is a dude.

As I mentioned, this is the one the fewest people got right, with 21 correct responses. That’s not surprising, as this was one of only two questions you didn’t have a 1:4 chance of getting right through random guessing. But that said, ‘going through news posts’ was the only thing I got exclusively negative feedback on.

Question 5:

What does the Father believe to be “the key that will free the Force?”

Look, I had to have at least one question that was just ctrl+F in the event fiction. It’s Avitus. The Father says that exact phrase in quotes (minus the question mark) in the Prologue.

34 members got it right, making it tied for the second-hardest question. Ironically, the two people who told me they would’ve preferred a competition that was entirely questions like this one both missed this. I guess the moral of the story is to be careful what you wish for.

Question 6:

Which of these individuals is believed to be a genetic clone of the Father?

Again, you had pictures of Loremi, J’hon, and two of Telaris, Dacien, and James. The answer here, as revealed in the climax of GJW XV, was J’hon. This is another plot point that Idris recapped earlier this summer in Galactic Happenings.

This was tied with the previous question in difficulty, with only 34 correct answers.

Question 7:

The Ethereal Realm isn’t the first extra-dimensional space that Force-users have discovered. Records recovered from the old Jedi Order say that three Jedi entered the Mortis realm during the Clone Wars. Where did they enter it from?

I’m sure somebody out there knew this off the top of their head, but the rest of us could just check Wookieepedia. It was Chrelythiumn. Any of the Wookieepedia articles on Mortis or the associated episodes should have gotten here. 47 folks got this right.

Question 8:

Similarly, Imperial records show that Darth Sidious was seeking a different extra-dimensional space during the time of the Empire. He believed he could enter it through a portal at an ancient Jedi temple decorated with the Mortis gods. Where was this temple?

Same thing, different cartoon. Slightly less obscure as it was the primary setting for Rebels as opposed to a throw-away line in The Clone Wars, but probably harder to find by skimming Wookieepedia. You were looking for Lothal. 55 people got this.

Question 9:

Your datapad was able to normalize the writing into standard Aurebesh, but the text is still in an ancient dialect:

You were presented with one of four images. You had to transliterate it from Aurebesh into our alphabet, only to discover the message was in Latin. I assume the vast majority of you don’t know Latin, so you were expected to plug that into some tool (I tested it with Google Translate) to get an English message.

To get credit, you had to give me an answer that was a) English and b) close enough that I could tell you decoded the Aurebesh in the image you were given. This was a test of your ability to solve the puzzle, not your ability to translate Latin, so I was very lenient on translations. But you did have to make an attempt. Depending on your prompt, the key to rebirth was either the death of all stars/rebirth in the Ethereal Realm, the destruction of the Dark Jedi Brotherhood, the breaking of all chains, or obedience to the Father. I tried to keep the variants as equal in length as possible.

This question is why I made such a big deal about how you could use third-party tools before the GJW and I was a little worried about how it would play out. But 48 people got this right, making it one of the easier questions even though nobody got it through random guessing. I got mostly positive feedback on this one, though obviously people who were zipping through for participation tended to skip it.

The best wrong answer was “Drink more ovaltine”. I also really liked the one where someone missed an 'n' in 'nostrae' in the first step and Google Translate told them something about oysters, but per the above they got credit for it.

Question 10:

After translating that text, you decide to head to the break room for a well-deserved beverage. Unfortunately, you’ve walked right into an ambush! Howlader ambles in and corners you, launching into a thirty-minute story about the good old days. You feel your eyes start to glaze over, but suddenly you snap to attention: “Not to sound krathy, but we probably should have done something with that crystal.”

It turns out that Howie’s story is a hazy recollection of a conflict the Brotherhood fought many years ago. You suspect that the Shadow Academy archives might have valuable information we could use in the current battle, but only if you can piece together which war Howie is talking about based on his half-remembered details. You gather the following:

The clans united against “some idiots.”

The Grand Master at the time was “weird.”

“My Halc” was not involved in the conflict but “I gave that jackass his first Gold Nova and that other jackass a Gold Lightsaber.”

There was a crystal. Or something. Howie thinks it might actually have been rock candy but he wasn’t allowed to eat it.

Which historical Brotherhood conflict is Howie describing?

I’m quite proud of this question. You were given four choices out of a pool of 20 possible answers, including basically every major event between GJWI and the Dark Crusade.

First, here are the translations of each clue from Howie-speak:

  1. The vendetta involved all the clans uniting against a common foe.

  2. If you’ve met any of our GMs, this doesn’t really narrow it down.

  3. If you know Howie, you know his Halc is Halcyon, Jac is a jackass, and Mav is also a jackass. Halc didn’t join until 2001 (noob), Jac got his first GL in 1997, and Baby Mav of House Ektrosis got his first Gold Nova for “Performance in the Second Great Jedi War” in 1999. (I don’t know why Howie included a GL from 1997 in the Chancellor section of the August 1999 issue of Dark Voice with GJW2 results, but in his defense he was probably 4 years old.)

  4. This is the only clue you actually needed; the rest, while accurate, were there for flavor and potential red herrings. Rite of Supremacy: Escalation and GJW XV both involved crystals, but neither of those were potential options. If you checked the wiki articles for your four options, you’d quickly narrow it down. You could also just type “crystal” into the search box on DB wiki and it was the first result.

The answer here was the Second Great Jedi War, also known as Crystal Dreams. 40 people got it right and it was one of the more popular questions in feedback.

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Phase 2

As previously stated, there will be a similar competition in phase 2 and I've tweaked it based on what I've heard about phase 1. Things you can expect:

  • Scrounging through news posts/reports will not be the primary or only way to answer any of the questions.

  • There will be a Howie cameo.

  • There will be more 'puzzle' questions (like 9 and 10).

  • There will be pictures, though not CoM character portraits.

  • No more Aurebesh or Latin, though that's less from feedback and more because you're all wise to that trick now.

Enjoy your rest week and I'll see you in phase 2!

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89 people in this club know it wasn't a conspiracy and there 100% was a Mother. 42 of the people in this club know who the Mother is, proving it's real.

100% of you will deny me again as a conspiracy theorist LOL

My one bit of feedback I forgot to give directly: someone update the CoM wiki with their pictures thx :p

Like the breakdown, Arch, thanks for explaining.

The Mother is, and always has been, Jeanette.

Why are we still arguing about this?

This was a lot of fun to do. I love the breakdown as well. Looking forward to phase II

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